CAR PARTS LOCATOR : ScooterAFD FF/Paramedic'69 Firebird'84 Firebird (The $100 car)'82 Chevy G-10 Van'89 Dodge Caravan'82 Yamaha Virago'87 Grand Am (the new $100 car)California's smog check program is a bit bureaucratic (and there isfrequent pressure to make it harsher in various specific ways), butfor the most part, at this time, its reputation for having fangs andclaws is overblown. If your car is in good tune and nobody hasremoved or plugged or bypassed the "49-state" smog controls that itought to have, you'd might as well give it a try. See for instance If smog checks are available in your present area, you might run itthrough and see what the numbers will look like, to guide yourdecision on whether to sell the car there or bring it with you.Other pages of interest to the new Californian may be found on
CAR PARTS LOCATOR : Yikes! I go away for a week or two, and all hell breaks loose.Even though I've spent the past couple of hours attempting to catch up on JSposts, I still haven't read them all, and I'm still a tad hazy on somedetails of the controversy. But it seems likely to me that Jordan Sage,whoever he is, IF he exists, has something up his sleeve aside from hiselbow.A few points caught my eye. I'm going over old ground for most of you, butthat's no sin. Some new info will appear below; gauge its value foryourself:1. The web page simply does not look professional. No corporate logo, forone thing. I work for a company that employs about ten people, and even WEhave a cool logo. There are many photographs on the Jordan Sage site, butnone provide proof that the company even exists. No employees, and noclients, are pictured. On the whole, the web page offers (IMO) insufficientinformation to attract any well-heeled customer. So why does the web pageexist?
CAR PARTS LOCATOR : 2. If this security company really is so massive and impressive, why haven'twe heard of it before? Why isn't it as famous as, say, Wackenhut? Why is notONE happy customer listed in the promotional material?3. Why no contact number or mailing address? It doesn't take THAT much workto find a telephone number and mailing address for, say, Wackenhut. In aletter to this group, someone calling himself Jordan Sage revealed a PO boxand the number of a lawyer. These proves nothing.4. If Jordan Sage has been providing security services since 1992, why isthere NO internet-accessible proof that the company existed in any formbefore January 14 of this year, when several usenet posts (!) announced thatthe firm was open for business?5. Why is someone calling himself Jordan Sage personally delivering lawsuitthreats on usenet? A man in charge of a $500 million firm surely would havesuch matters handled by lawyers, well away from the flame wars. (As for theclaim that usenet's "Jordan Sage" was really an imposter: This idea strikesme as an ex post facto rationalization.)
CAR PARTS LOCATOR : 6. Why did these initial usenet posts originate, not from Mr. Sage or hiscompany (which seems to be based in either Boulder, Colorado or Kingston,Mass.), but from a person calling herself Stella Holman, apparentlyoperating something called "Ivey Business Services" in the U.K.? Would not acompany doing $500 million in business do its own advertising? Would it needsomeone like Stella to represent its business interests?7. What the hell is Ivey Business Services? A key question. The history ofthis odd Sussex firm (which seems to have but one known employee) does notKnowing Jordan Sage personally, these are easily answered. First of allhaving once worked for the man, NONE of the firm's clients are publcrecord. They have confidentiality contracts in place. The employeescan't say anything. Unlike other wannabe bodyguard firms that BRAG aboutclients they CLAIM to have, while also exposing them to greater risk,Jordan Sage's business does not operate that way. As for aut parts?? Idon't have an answer for that one. I know they used to have a bulletproof car business in 1997. I don't know if they still have that or not.I know all of Jordan's cars are bullet proof. I also know that JordanSage is involved in international import and export operations on alarge scale. He helps foreign governments, disadvantaged business, etc.I don't really know to much about it. He used to do shipping of cement,wood, steel, etc.
CAR PARTS LOCATOR : His web page was started about two years ago, but none of their clientbase wit some rare exception comes from the Internet. 99.9% of hisclient base comes from word of mouth in very powerful circles. Theydon't even advertise. They don't need to from what I saw.MC wrote in message...Most informative post.(cut)(cut)Interesting hypothesis. I could name a number of people who do just that:ex-military, ex-intelligence, now acting as brokers/traders via the net andfax, yet still playing their intelligence games. Sometimes these people areonto something interesting, other times they're barking up a tree. Thiswhole JS saga, with the wacko posting here, is most intriguing.This page from: lets Jordan Sage tell his own story. I think it clears up the matter of whohe is quite well.*********************************** ****
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